2023 | 2024 | ||||||
Price: | 76.08 | EPS | -1.51 | -1.07 | |||
Shares Out. (in M): | 81 | P/E | nm | nm | |||
Market Cap (in $M): | 6,196 | P/FCF | 365 | 59 | |||
Net Debt (in $M): | -248 | EBIT | 1 | 53 | |||
TEV (in $M): | 5,948 | TEV/EBIT | nm | 112 | |||
Borrow Cost: | General Collateral |
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EXECUTIVE SUMMARY: Guidewire (GWRE) is the market share leader for software solutions focused on the Property and Casualty (P&C) insurance market. GWRE’s valuation today (~70x/~35x FY24E/FY25E consensus EBITDA, respectively) is underpinned by the street’s acceptance of management’s unrealistic FY25E/LT models and stated cloud TAM >1.5-3x 3rd party estimates. The reality facing GWRE is that – even if it is successful in converting the ~80% of its customer base that remains deployed on-premises to cloud – it is operating a software model with structurally lower margins, exacerbated by >30% of revenue coming from <0% margin professional services + support, all in an increasingly competitive and limited TAM. Further, this cloud conversion is far from certain, with ~10% of new wins choosing to deploy on-prem. Despite all of this, GWRE trades at a premium to more competitively secure and higher growth SaaS comps. Continued profit/FCF margin misses and adjustments to mgmt’s LT model seem likely to drive a N/M-term de-rating. This setup creates a >1.5-1 short risk/reward and a base case FY26E ~30% return: Short Downside Case FY26E price target of $~110 p.s., Base Case of ~$50 p.s., Upside Case of ~$25 p.s..
GWRE SHORT THESIS SUMMARY
COMPANY OVERVIEW
Introduction: GWRE provides software solutions that support policy, claims, and billing management for the P&C insurance market. The company went public in 2012 at ~$13 p.s.. Founded in San Mateo, CA in 2001, today GWRE serves >500 customers globally and employs 3,376 people.
Business Model / Products: GWRE generates revenue by marketing software and services supporting policy, claims, and billing management as well as add-on modules for CPQ (configure, price, quote) tooling, data management, and analytics. The company generally prices its software based on the amount of Direct Written Premium that will be processed by the software’s deployment within its client (estimated take rate is 10-20bps of DWP). GWRE segments its revenue and gross profit by:
Market and competition: GWRE participates in the P&C Insurance SW market, which Gartner sizes at ~$16bn and expects to grow 11% p.a. through FY25. While GWRE’s traditional offerings target P&C Vertical and Horizontal Applications sub-markets, expansion into hosted cloud offerings allows GWRE to target infrastructure budgets as well.
WHY DOES THIS OPPORTUNITY EXIST?
WHERE I COULD BE WRONG / BULL CASE
FINANCIAL OVERVIEW AND BASE CASE: My base case assumes that GWRE is able to convert (this means sell, not necessarily have deployed and in the P&L – this is an important distinction because new cloud sales have historically shown up in ARR almost a year before they show up fully in the P&L) ~75% of its base by FY26 without meaningful churn. Then, I assume that mgmt is able to effectively reverse the damage they’ve done to gross and operating margins during the conversion, getting to a ~56% GAAP / ~60% non-GAAP GM and a ~16% Adj. EBITDA margin by FY26E. I think this is pretty generous for all the reasons described above and gets you to $150-$200mm of EBITDA by FY26E (from ~$0 today).
RISK/REWARD: What multiple to put on this $175mm of FY26E EBITDA? Given the current multiple on that figure is >30x, this deserves some serious thought. Fundamentally I think that this business– having exited its conversion and thereby growing with the cloud P&C SW market of low-mid teens – should be trading around a LSD FCF yield given its (presumably) still dominant position in a smallish TAM. Assuming sustainable LFCF conversion in the ~85% range and that buybacks roughly offset dilution from SBC, putting a 3% FCF yield on this profile gets you to a $50 FY26 PT, equivalent to 20-25x EBITDA. This sort of squares with where a comps analysis gets you, with a fair set of vertical SW comps (median topline growth rate of 18%, median GM of 65%) trading at ~x30 fwd EBITDA today. Given even this fairly optimistic picture of the future GWRE, I’d say that 5-10x of EBITDA multiple is a fair discount for its relatively inferior financial profile and smaller market opportunity vs. the average vertical SW company.
It’s fairly easy to paint an upside case where everything goes perfectly (i.e. mgmt. hits its LT targets early) and the company is doing >$200mm of EBITDA by FY26E and somehow still earns an-above peer multiple that gets you to a $100-$130 PT in FY26E. There is also an easily imaginable scenario wherein GWRE either 1) stumbles during the transition of its remaining ~80% of customers not currently in the cloud and churn ticks up, 2) faces increased competition from DCT and Majesco, owned by the two best software private equity operators on the planet, 3) Isn’t able to expand gross margins by >1,000 basis points because it continues to operate higher-touch, single-tenant deployments and/or can’t convert private cloud deployments, 4) is unable to double sales efficiency like consensus is calling for. Any combination of these factors could result in FY26E EBITDA <$100mm. Pick your multiple for a software company facing any of these headwinds and perennially underperforming management targets and you probably get to a $20-30 FY26E PT. This all sets up for a good return in a reasonable operating and valuation base case, with a nice risk-reward comparing the bull and bear cases.
CATALYSTS: Upcoming catalysts in FY23E earnings (FYE 7/30 call typically early September) which is likely to show downside to consensus profitability and/or another reset of management’s FY25E and long-term models. I think there is limited likelihood of an upward reset to management’s LT model during FY earnings or the Fall Analyst day, but these are likely to be key catalysts, one way or another.
APPENDICES TABLE OF CONTENTS
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APPENDIX A: MARKET OVERVIEW AND COMPETITION
APPENDIX B: PRODUCT OVERVIEW
APPENDIX C: INDUSTRY RESEARCH EXCERPTS[1]
APPENDIX D: MANAGEMENT OVERVIEW
APPENDIX E: BOARD OVERVIEW
APPENDIX F: TOP HOLDERS
APPENDIX G: MGMT FY25 AND LT TARGETS
[1] Gartner.
CATALYSTS: Upcoming catalysts in FY23E earnings (FYE 7/30 call typically early September) which is likely to show downside to consensus profitability and/or another reset of management’s FY25E and long-term models. I think there is limited likelihood of an upward reset to management’s LT model during FY earnings or the Fall Analyst day, but these are likely to be key catalysts, one way or another.
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